Doris Kearns Goodwin on Meet The Press (3 December, 2017)

“Clearly the people inside the administration, inside the Congress are feeling a sense of enormous concern right now. I don’t understand how President Trump could say the other day ‘no collusion, we’re very happy.’ How can he be happy? The administration has been under a shadow from the beginning. Energy has been lost, time and resources have been lost. And now it’s going into an even deeper direction. As long as it doesn’t hit him, he says ‘we’re happy.’ Don’t the people you choose around you, who have now shown themselves to be untrustworthy, reflect you? That’s the major idea of a leader is an example. And yet he says, ‘we are very happy.’ There’s such a disconnect between what’s happening and what he’s feeling,” says presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin on Meet the Press during the panel’s discussion of President Donald Trump and the Russia investigation. Listen to more of the discussion here.